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Title: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 05:57:41 PM
Accused player(s): OctoGamer
Accused of: Unexplained Transfer of Village Ownership
Player(s) effected: CyphurTheFox
Time occurred: Unknown
Location: Mountain Dwelling (rgID: mountaindwelling)
Co-ordinates:800, <y?>, 9650

Brief summary of what happened:
Recently I noticed a change in ownership on a region I owned, Specifically the village known as "Mountain Dwelling" For some unexplained reason, I was removed from the owner list and replaced by OctoGamer. Could the owner list on this village be reinstated?



Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 06:23:04 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 06:46:04 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.

I remember stating when you showed me the dupe setup that while I had been aware of the specific dupe glitch long prior to this incident, I was not aware that scott was using it to dupe.

Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Shensley on 20 April 2020, 06:53:46 PM
Judging by logs he was duping for at least a year before we found out. This makes it almost impossible to tell what is legit and what isn't. I stand by seizing the region.

Also its a giant farm which will be banned if the new rule passes so you really have no use for it.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 06:58:09 PM
Judging by logs he was duping for at least a year before we found out. This makes it almost impossible to tell what is legit and what isn't. I stand by seizing the region.


I'm confused what the seizure is supposed to accomplish, I thought it was quite evident that the spoils were kept in a vault in another location.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Shensley on 20 April 2020, 07:04:06 PM

Not sure where you got that from but we can always go through and check the region if we give it back.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:05:38 PM
I find it hard to believe that you were "unaware" of scotts duping, yet knew where his duped valuables were because of logs? Can I get an answer for this. Cyphur.


Answer me this one too, why didn't you message me about this?
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: TheLegend12369 on 20 April 2020, 07:11:20 PM
Mountain Dwelling wasn't even made by scott, simply bought, and from what I know, one of Cyphur's only involvements with it was fixing an outdated storage system. If he wasn't going out of his way to look for a duping machine, he wouldn't have found it. In addition, he told luis about the glitch a long time ago, if he knew scott was doing it why would he make it easier for luis to catch them? I'm completely convinced Cyphur wasn't involved. What staff did you talk to when you made the decision to cease it, and why didn't you at least make cyphur aware that you were doing it? I don't think cyphur deserves to have his region forcibly stripped from him, and I certainly don't think you deserve to be the owner of a region you complain isn't yours almost every time it's mentioned.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: luisc99 on 20 April 2020, 07:13:42 PM
What staff did you talk to when you made the decision to cease it, and why didn't you at least make cyphur aware that you were doing it?
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but you name dropped me so I'm going to. I'm pretty sure we were all in a group call when this happened, involving everyone in this thread, among others
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: TheLegend12369 on 20 April 2020, 07:16:26 PM
What staff did you talk to when you made the decision to cease it, and why didn't you at least make cyphur aware that you were doing it?
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but you name dropped me so I'm going to. I'm pretty sure we were all in a group call when this happened, involving everyone in this thread, among others
We never talked about ceasing it from Cyphur though
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Shensley on 20 April 2020, 07:17:44 PM
What staff did you talk to when you made the decision to cease it, and why didn't you at least make cyphur aware that you were doing it?
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but you name dropped me so I'm going to. I'm pretty sure we were all in a group call when this happened, involving everyone in this thread, among others
We never talked about ceasing it from Cyphur though

I think we figured he would have connected the dots since he was also apart of the village.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:24:37 PM
What staff did you talk to when you made the decision to cease it, and why didn't you at least make cyphur aware that you were doing it?
I wasn't going to get involved in this, but you name dropped me so I'm going to. I'm pretty sure we were all in a group call when this happened, involving everyone in this thread, among others
We never talked about ceasing it from Cyphur though

I think we figured he would have connected the dots since he was also apart of the village.
one of the only 2 other people apart of the town.. other than scott and the original owner. (whom was ALSO removed)
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 07:30:25 PM
I find it hard to believe that you were "unaware" of scotts duping, yet knew where his duped valuables were because of logs? Can I get an answer for this. Cyphur.


Answer me this one too, why didn't you message me about this?

I think it is very very common knowledge that I am something of a redstone consultant on the server. People ask me fairly often about various redstone contraptions. The reason I recognized Scott's vault where the valuables were kept is because the door into is one of my own construction. Scott asked me for a hidden door for his vault, hence i constructed a 2x2 flush with wall door with floorboard torchkey trigger. That is how I knew where his valubles were, I did not know, however, that they were duped.

Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: TheLegend12369 on 20 April 2020, 07:34:36 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.
Also, this farm was already under "staff name" if that was the problem, as Cyphur is staff. You didn't take the other region where there was evidence of duping, where the valuables were actually stored, just Mountain Dwelling
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:40:25 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.
Also, this farm was already under "staff name" if that was the problem, as Cyphur is staff. You didn't take the other region where there was evidence of duping, where the valuables were actually stored, just Mountain Dwelling
like, the day cyphur was modded this happened. Sorry I put it in an Admin's name.  Sorry I forgot he was staff at the time. And Yes, I did check again /region info scottvault. Don't accuse me bud.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 07:41:38 PM
Mountain Dwelling wasn't even made by scott, simply bought, and from what I know, one of Cyphur's only involvements with it was fixing an outdated storage system.
To be specific, I fixed the storage system, as well as the storage's of numerous other farms in the complex, as well as helped in funding the purchase. I also provided analytics on the farm during the purchase to determine a fair price for the farm.


If he wasn't going out of his way to look for a duping machine, he wouldn't have found it. In addition, he told luis about the glitch a long time ago, if he knew scott was doing it why would he make it easier for luis to catch them?

I actually have a copy of the region, and surrounding area, from when it was first purchased. This copy was used to gather analytics on farm production to calculate value, as well as design the new storage system. Upon inspection, the dupe setup is evidently a recent addition, as it was not there.


Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:42:39 PM
Mountain Dwelling wasn't even made by scott, simply bought, and from what I know, one of Cyphur's only involvements with it was fixing an outdated storage system.
To be specific, I fixed the storage system, as well as the storage's of numerous other farms in the complex, as well as helped in funding the purchase. I also provided analytics on the farm during the purchase to determine a fair price for the farm.


If he wasn't going out of his way to look for a duping machine, he wouldn't have found it. In addition, he told luis about the glitch a long time ago, if he knew scott was doing it why would he make it easier for luis to catch them?

I actually have a copy of the region, and surrounding area, from when it was first purchased. This copy was used to gather analytics on farm production to calculate value, as well as design the new storage system. Upon inspection, the dupe setup is evidently a recent addition, as it was not there.
Excuse me? you have a *COPY* ??? what?
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: TheLegend12369 on 20 April 2020, 07:46:11 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.
Also, this farm was already under "staff name" if that was the problem, as Cyphur is staff. You didn't take the other region where there was evidence of duping, where the valuables were actually stored, just Mountain Dwelling
like, the day cyphur was modded this happened. Sorry I put it in an Admin's name.  Sorry I forgot he was staff at the time. And Yes, I did check again /region info scottvault. Don't accuse me bud.
Wasn't accusing you, i checked the ownership of Fortscott (the pubic farm where we first found evidence) the other day and it said scott still owned it and you hadn't seized it, i just forgot that the vault and farm were separate regions. They're right next to each other.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: CyphurTheFox on 20 April 2020, 07:48:27 PM
Mountain Dwelling wasn't even made by scott, simply bought, and from what I know, one of Cyphur's only involvements with it was fixing an outdated storage system.
To be specific, I fixed the storage system, as well as the storage's of numerous other farms in the complex, as well as helped in funding the purchase. I also provided analytics on the farm during the purchase to determine a fair price for the farm.


If he wasn't going out of his way to look for a duping machine, he wouldn't have found it. In addition, he told luis about the glitch a long time ago, if he knew scott was doing it why would he make it easier for luis to catch them?

I actually have a copy of the region, and surrounding area, from when it was first purchased. This copy was used to gather analytics on farm production to calculate value, as well as design the new storage system. Upon inspection, the dupe setup is evidently a recent addition, as it was not there.
Excuse me? you have a *COPY* ??? what?

Yes. I have a mod that allows me to download sections of a world into a singleplayer file. People have asked me numerous times to save parts of the world that they might want to keep for memories. I have a zip of mountaindwelling (https://send.firefox.com/download/88533db66adefb0a/#LLYniUDovWMCksbnN9qAfQ (https://send.firefox.com/download/88533db66adefb0a/#LLYniUDovWMCksbnN9qAfQ)) from 1.12, before the purchase.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:48:45 PM
yea. the place scott had been duping I confiscated under staff name because that's what I was told to do. unsure as to what to do with it, most staff members were in agreement to seize it. we asked you if you knew about scott duping their a few times and you ignored it.
Also, this farm was already under "staff name" if that was the problem, as Cyphur is staff. You didn't take the other region where there was evidence of duping, where the valuables were actually stored, just Mountain Dwelling
like, the day cyphur was modded this happened. Sorry I put it in an Admin's name.  Sorry I forgot he was staff at the time. And Yes, I did check again /region info scottvault. Don't accuse me bud.
Wasn't accusing you, i checked the ownership of Fortscott (the pubic farm where we first found evidence) the other day and it said scott still owned it and you hadn't seized it, i just forgot that the vault and farm were separate regions. They're right next to each other.
You were accusing me. "You didn't take the other region where there was evidence of duping, where the valuables were actually stored, just Mountain Dwelling." Is that not accusing?

Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:49:22 PM
Mountain Dwelling wasn't even made by scott, simply bought, and from what I know, one of Cyphur's only involvements with it was fixing an outdated storage system.
To be specific, I fixed the storage system, as well as the storage's of numerous other farms in the complex, as well as helped in funding the purchase. I also provided analytics on the farm during the purchase to determine a fair price for the farm.


If he wasn't going out of his way to look for a duping machine, he wouldn't have found it. In addition, he told luis about the glitch a long time ago, if he knew scott was doing it why would he make it easier for luis to catch them?

I actually have a copy of the region, and surrounding area, from when it was first purchased. This copy was used to gather analytics on farm production to calculate value, as well as design the new storage system. Upon inspection, the dupe setup is evidently a recent addition, as it was not there.
Excuse me? you have a *COPY* ??? what?

Yes. I have a mod that allows me to download sections of a world into a singleplayer file. People have asked me numerous times to save parts of the world that they might want to keep for memories. I have a zip of mountaindwelling (https://send.firefox.com/download/88533db66adefb0a/#LLYniUDovWMCksbnN9qAfQ (https://send.firefox.com/download/88533db66adefb0a/#LLYniUDovWMCksbnN9qAfQ)) from 1.12, before the purchase.
Okay, thought you meant it was on the server.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 April 2020, 07:50:37 PM
I'm done arguing with you by the way, you still haven't answered why this couldn't be done in message. you can come take your village back. and  you can come continue do as you'd please, as you seem to do as of recently.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: gerrit70 on 20 April 2020, 10:06:41 PM
I'm done arguing with you by the way, you still haven't answered why this couldn't be done in message. you can come take your village back. and  you can come continue do as you'd please, as you seem to do as of recently.

I agree, I dont see why a thread was necessary for this.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 21 April 2020, 11:11:45 AM
Cyphur got his town back it appears. I'll be going through mountaindwelling tonight to remove anything of scotts :)
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Shensley on 21 April 2020, 03:44:01 PM
Sounds like this has been resolved.

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Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: OctoGamer on 24 April 2020, 09:39:10 AM
Sounds like this has been resolved.

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This, has not been resolved, not until Cyphur tells me why he reported me.

@CyphurTheFox speak up, bud.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Jakrelia on 24 April 2020, 01:14:31 PM
Sounds like this has been resolved.

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This, has not been resolved, not until Cyphur tells me why he reported me.

@CyphurTheFox speak up, bud.
Lmao he apologised already dude, drop it.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Shensley on 24 April 2020, 01:17:05 PM
He got his village back did he not? That can be something you discuss outside of the forums I don't really think it needs to be handled here though.
Title: Re: Could I get my village back?
Post by: Akomine on 24 April 2020, 02:50:54 PM
Cyphur, and anyone else, has every right to use this public board for a grievance.

It does not need to be taken personally. It does not need to be taken as an attack.

This board is here to solve problems and it doesn't mean someone was guilty of doing something wrong. Keep a cool head and deal with any post here rationally, and we'll all get thru it.