kinda think we should wait but at the same time. a lot of what i've said about this is ignored so i don't care. such a fucking retarded rule anyways.
I can directly quote you to areas where you were not ignored. Your input changed the face of this proposal. To say otherwise is bizarre.
I feel like nobody here bothered to actually read Luis's report, or they did read it and straight up ignored it because they think that they know better. This is a stupid rule, attempts to overregulate and detracts from a minimal staff-regulation experience.
I mean, seriously, this whole proposal is damn insulting when it was found that the fluctuations do not cause any noticeable or significant lag but people decided to ignore his whole investigation. And then there's people cherrypicking what was found. What the fuck? This "bill" is a whole heap of nonsense, it won't fix anything and it seems players are just trying to scapegoat the lag on something I bet not even the proponents understand.
Let me ask you all a very, very fair question. Can any one who is actually for this analyse Luis's write-up and tell me how exactly a ban on farms would help, technically, in absolute terms? I would very much like to see it.
Luis's report is helpful, but you have to consider that:
- It is not a true test of VC under load, (only implementing this rule can do that).
- He found that farms did contribute to TPS fluctuations, though personally disagreed with a rule at the time of writing. He also posited that the TPS fluctuations are likely less than what people tend to assume.
I'm sorry you feel ignored, when I was lagging so bad I couldn't move when this whole debate started I also felt very ignored when trying to find the issue with people. I understand you aren't feeling lag but unfortunately not all of us players have that luxury and if this "retarded rule" helps us a little bit I don't understand why we don't want to sacrifice a little to help the players overall. The rule is if 10 players get on you have to cease use of a farm, and even in our up rate these past few weeks it isn't always 10, usually 7-9 people.
Overall I think the rule is a great compromise, if we want to wait for after CM vote that is fine, but I don't see any reason we have to wait unless someone has a valid reason for waiting.
This is a decent reply, nicely done. I wonder if this rule passes, if you'll notice an improvement.
You all sound so whiny when the rest of the player base clearly experiences this lag when farms are in use. Luis' investigation shows proof that it causes much more fluctuation for 1.14 at these farms, which is what induces the rubber banding that a majority of the community's complaints.
In my opinion, the regulations are very light as I would have liked to see the number of required players to regulate farms drop down lower to around 5. This is an extremely fair compromise and it only lasts till 1.16 AND punishment is very light on offenders. No farms are getting seized or broken the community is just asking these players using these large farms to think about them and quit being so self interested while we try to figure out ways to cut down lag for the time being.
The amount of crying or incessant whining over fucking minecraft farms couldn't be anymore pathetic. I get it, the mind blowing feeling of standing there AFK while you ruin everyone else's experience is just too good to pass up. But please, quit being so selfish and listen to other people's complaints about not being able to play. It's absurd that these AFK players, represented by mostly staff, have gone this long with clear favor while the other players have gotten screwed until someone decided to speak up.
Farms can still be used according to these regulations, it's just asking that large farm users do this at a time where it won't affect every other player. So please, stop whining about it ruining your player experience. We don't care, just as you are constantly ignoring the concerns about our experience being riddled with constant lag, we don't care how much it ruins your fun -- you have already lost that respect.
Not gonna lie, I had a laugh at this rant