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Title: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Yvette on 18 May 2017, 11:52:38 PM
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 19 May 2017, 12:03:07 AM
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.

I am not so boring that I would take time out of my day to deliberately go on IRC JUST to insult you. I go on IRC to chat with my friends when I do not have access to MC, such as lunch time in school, not to offend yvette, and plus, staff have no control over what goes on outside of VC, such as skype.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Yvette on 19 May 2017, 12:04:41 AM
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.

I am not so boring that I would take time out of my day to deliberately go on IRC JUST to insult you. I go on IRC to chat with my friends when I do not have access to MC, such as lunch time in school, not to offend yvette, and plus, staff have no control over what goes on outside of VC, such as skype.
When I am being harassed on Skype to such an extent that personal information is being leaked and people are talking it about it on the server it isnt just Skype anymore.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 19 May 2017, 12:06:26 AM
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.

I am not so boring that I would take time out of my day to deliberately go on IRC JUST to insult you. I go on IRC to chat with my friends when I do not have access to MC, such as lunch time in school, not to offend yvette, and plus, staff have no control over what goes on outside of VC, such as skype.
When I am being harassed on Skype to such an extent that personal information is being leaked and people are talking it about it on the server it isnt just Skype anymore.

But what happenes on skype is not something staff can control. What can staff do? I suggest you telling a friend, someone you trust, like your parents, about your discomforts
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 12:31:45 AM
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.

What the hell? When I was talking in French I was talking about how my grandpa died and how you completely disregarded and said I was a greedy bitch for no reason. Literally, I was the triggered one on Skype

When I went on IRC, please show me when I was talking to you. You were the first one to talk and then I came back on later because swag was rambling how you were being a douchebag to her.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS USED FOR SOCIAL PURPOSES. IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE SEEING YOUR STUFF MAKE IT PRIVATE OR DON'T POST IT AT ALL. YOU GAVE YOUR TUMBLR TO LIVID, and then, what a shocker, he gave it to me. If you are so concerned about people being nosey with your stuff then don't post it on social media? Anyone can see it and it isn't illegal at all to repost or share it in any way.

Also, I had Shen tell me that stuff that happens on Skype stays on Skype. You don't bring stuff onto VC because when I apparently "gave out" your blog, which is public (if you're so concerned make it private) I added random people who I vaguely knew. If you look at their names it appears they don't speak english and 2 left immediately.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 12:32:52 AM
I'd also like to add that MibbitUser was me and BeefPatty and the chicken guy were swag and donut I believe. Feel free to check the IP.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 12:36:16 AM
Final thing... can't really leak private information if you make it public on a BLOG website where people look at your posts.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 01:00:45 AM
ok so I'm going to get more across doing it like this
Right so this is going to be in two parts because i have two separate things to report.

Part 1. Earlier Kylie was on IRC, saying things about me in French and making references to me by talking about "living in a basement and smoking weed" (one of her favourite insults for me, as seen here: http://imgur.com/a/d4V4k
So previous to this, I have had KylizzleJenner, AtomicDonut and _ForeverSwag878_ ignored for quite awhile. It isn't a secret so they know they shouldn't be using IRC to bypass, but oh well. Here's another few screenshots of Kylie + co. antagonising me and saying i have no life, live in a basement, ect.
http://imgur.com/a/cz6ty
Oh, this is the tip of the iceberg. I guess my reaction wasn't good enough for Kylie so she went further.

So please show me where I came on IRC and insulted you in French? Nothing of what I was saying was even pertaining to insulting you and I was telling NiceGirl about the death of my grandpa (speaking of, we should include how you're manipulating the situation and saying that apparently I'm happy that my grandpa is dead?). If we look through the logs we just see that you were first to talk to me and I had not even talked to you at all.

Part 2!
The reason this is in a different part is because the majority of this did take place on Skype, meaning I am not 100% sure whether the mods will take action about it or not. However, the acts are so extreme and go beyond just regular bickering, and I really hope the mods will do something about this.
So.
I got back from driving my boyfriend home, and see a notification on Skype. Surprise, its a group chat that Kylie was added to, and the very first thing she posts is screenshots of my social media account on Tumblr, and screenshots of her sending it to people over text messages.
This is so fucking wrong. I was in tears, like people jab at me for being "triggered" a lot but this is the first time I've genuinely been rattled by someone on VC. I have no clue how she even got a hold of my account, which includes a lot of personal information. I immediately deleted the account and I hope that she or one of the other people she sent it to (she also added a bunch of randoms to the Skype group as she was sending out my personal stuff) didn't save any personal info I had on there. Obviously, screens.
http://imgur.com/a/tTOla
This was such a vile act and from someone who promised she would come back and not cause problems, this is so fucking far. I really hope some action is taken.
Also, bonus screenshot, since I was outed as trans to a few people due to my private accounts being sent out
http://imgur.com/a/jvFd3
Obviously not suggesting that donut or slushy did anything wrong, this screen is just to show context that personal information WAS revealed
Also a lot of people already knew but since this leak happened, yes, I am a transgender woman, to settle it.
Anyway. Cheers.
Nothing happened on VC. Lol.
I've had staff members @shensley @OctoGamer (both? Just shen I think) that VC is not responsible for anything that happens outside of VC. Is Trump responsible for say, Vietnam's economy? Think about that. You have infuriated me over the past few days- we should include the family situation as stated before. How about how the 3 generations of my family are retarded? Ok.

Next, maybe you shouldn't put personal information on social media. Remember that anyone can look at social media. I didn't see anything myself on there, my friend and I were texting about the crazy posts you make and how you've taunted me over the past few weeks. So how did I break any rule in a legal matter by sharing a social media account? Please don't even try invasion of privacy. If the supposed info was so "personal" why would you put it on a PUBLIC page. It's called SOCIAL media for a reason. If you don't want people seeing it, make your account private. Or just not post info that you consider personal? I'd like more elaboration on how random people are going to get your info... not so personal, again, if you post it on social media. Do I need permission to share your account? I'm pretty sure PewDiePie doesn't require permission to share his videos for example.

oh, about the jabbing thing. We had a nice political debate, what, 3 weeks ago when you were bringing in unprofessional comments like "trump supporters are fucking stupid they dont follow the constitution"

Now, here are my questions for you (a summarization)
How were you violated in any way even though you may (I did not see any) put classified info on SOCIAL media, where everyone and anyone can access it? That info is not private because anyone was able to access it.

Where are logs showing that I bypassed IRC in any way to insult or harm you in any way? You talked to me first and I responded about Livid telling you about the situation (not clarifying this, you should know very well)

So how does the insult game pertain to VC? Because you were in it as well and you just kept going. It happened on Skype. Please show me how I have harmed players in any way because I've stayed off of VC for the past week because of you and Katie.

PS livid gave me your tumblr. I've had access to it for a couple months but I don't care about looking at it.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: OctoGamer on 19 May 2017, 06:12:48 AM
Die, you obviously know you did something wrong if you're defending yourself this much.  I'm going to take a look at things deeper when I get out of work tonight. Staff has gotten involved in situations that happen off of VC that lead onto the server just for everyone's information. Die also remember, you are on much stricter chat rules then everyone else, and were on thin ice the other night.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: OctoGamer on 19 May 2017, 06:29:25 AM
Posting for reference Die's contract;

Agreement to lift ban of KylizzleJenner (aka Die_Endermen)

I, KylizzleJenner agree to the following in exchange for lifting VC player ban executed on 3/15/2017.

A probation period of 1 year commencing from the date of reinstatement.  During probation, any of the following actions or rule violations will result in an immediate and permanent ban from VC.

1.   Maintain strict adherence to VC server rules without exception.
2.   Follow all VC staff instructions, including requests to stop talking with other players.
3.   Use /ignore for any players I find annoying, disagreeable, or are have problems with.
4.   I will refrain from engaging in protracted arguments, harassment, annoying, and bullying tactics.
5.   I pledge to exhibit good citizenship and courtesy towards all other players.

By logging onto the server, you are consenting to abide by these conditions.  Compliance will be determined by VC staff and will not be the subject of any negotiations.   VC reserves the right to modify these conditions at any time during the probation period, however you will be given the opportunity to agree to any new terms.

Agreed to all above as discussed and conversed previously with in-depth detail of all terms.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 07:41:28 AM
Die, you obviously know you did something wrong if you're defending yourself this much.  I'm going to take a look at things deeper when I get out of work tonight. Staff has gotten involved in situations that happen off of VC that lead onto the server just for everyone's information. Die also remember, you are on much stricter chat rules then everyone else, and were on thin ice the other night.
@OctoGamer I have to defend myself...

And as I recall you were on when I was on IRC along with a Shen and Steph was there too, I don't remember exactly. I did not even talk to Yvette because I knew I would get in trouble for bypassing.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 07:51:39 AM
Also going to post this for reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/IMfySWf.png)
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 19 May 2017, 09:17:38 AM
Also going to post this for reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/IMfySWf.png)
We've banned people before for fucking with players outside of vc. We have a more passive banning system than other servers, which is the reason why you aren't banned, but make no mistake, we can still ban you if we want. It.only takes one command and you're banned, not very hard. Your contract makes it even easier to ban you, I suggest you chill.

Octo is gonna investigate this report and decide if you are getting banned or not.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: OctoGamer on 19 May 2017, 09:17:58 AM
Die, you obviously know you did something wrong if you're defending yourself this much.  I'm going to take a look at things deeper when I get out of work tonight. Staff has gotten involved in situations that happen off of VC that lead onto the server just for everyone's information. Die also remember, you are on much stricter chat rules then everyone else, and were on thin ice the other night.
@OctoGamer I have to defend myself...

And as I recall you were on when I was on IRC along with a Shen and Steph was there too, I don't remember exactly. I did not even talk to Yvette because I knew I would get in trouble for bypassing.
I ignored what you were saying on irc because it was half a different language.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 10:54:53 AM
Also going to post this for reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/IMfySWf.png)
We've banned people before for fucking with players outside of vc. We have a more passive banning system than other servers, which is the reason why you aren't banned, but make no mistake, we can still ban you if we want. It.only takes one command and you're banned, not very hard. Your contract makes it even easier to ban you, I suggest you chill.

Octo is gonna investigate this report and decide if you are getting banned or not.
Yes, thank you for the update.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Akomine on 19 May 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Hi Jakrelia, thank you for the report, we are looking into it, will investigate, and will get back to you.

I just want to tell you something though: a social media account is not private. Period. It's public, it's publicly accessible information available on the public internet. If you don't want people to find it and share the information on it, you should have never put that information on a public social media page.

Also, it's cool you're trans, nobody should care. We're all just humans with our own qualities making our ways through life. We should be spreading happiness and helping others live happy lives. My fear is Kylie is spreading hate, derision, and just generally trying to make certain targets of hers unhappy. We'll investigate and choose what to do soon. Cheers
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Shensley on 19 May 2017, 02:50:15 PM
Also going to post this for reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/IMfySWf.png)

But now its becoming a problem on VC
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: gerrit70 on 19 May 2017, 03:48:07 PM
Apologies if this is out of place but, Fuck off @Die_Endermen



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Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: AtomicDonut on 19 May 2017, 03:49:54 PM
Ok Kylie makes a good point about how you share a lot of things such as Youtube videos without asking for consent, but so does Yvette about not sharing personal stuff and social media. Yvette shouldn't have told livid her tumblr or whatever. But also Yvette gets triggered easily, don't know if swag got screens of this or not, but she was lashing out on swag. Yvette was being extremely rude to swag. She was saying things such as "Get the fuck out", "You fucking cunt", etc. On irc you told us we were "harassing" you, but you were clearly harassing swag. You assumed swag leaked your social media. Anyways if you didn't want your personal info to be leaked then why make it public. Why did you even make it public if there was private info on it. People don't ask permission to share videos or facebook posts, so why ask permission to share your tumblr.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 19 May 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Die, I just banned you. I never agreed with your unban appeal and I told the staff this was all bullshit and you just proved me right. I get it, you're a teenager, I hope you grow out of it. Nobody likes a bully. Goodbye.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: daverator on 19 May 2017, 05:02:02 PM
Die, I was one of the staff that voted to give you a second chance.  I'm disappointed that you proved me wrong.   
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: RagsDeeboo on 19 May 2017, 07:03:51 PM
Ok, I'm gonna defend Kylie here. This was ON SKYPE. I have specifically seen staff say that the contract was only on MC, and therefore can't be on Skype. (I don't have screenshots, sorry.) In the contract, it says "By logging onto the server, you are consenting to abide by these conditions." THIS WAS NOT ON VILLAGECRAFT. THIS WAS MOSTLY ON SKYPE. You guys seem to hate Kylie/Die. Now, I know she has some flaws, but we all do. You are bringing out your own in this case. Again, this was on Skype, and not on VC. You shouldn't do this for shit on Skype. Its fucked up. Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 19 May 2017, 07:12:31 PM
This happend OUTSIDE of VC, and I don't see how and why can staff be in control of things outside of the server. And plus, why was kylie banned? For harassing? I know as well as ANYONE else the boundaries of joking and being straight up mean, but it seems like the bottom-line has been raised WAY up for kylie. What I am saying is that something that other players do, and get away with, can get kylie banned. I will not list any names, but this happened to me once. I suggest making the harassing rules more clear, and if there is already a clarification, show me.

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

I am not accusing anything.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 19 May 2017, 07:18:54 PM
Besides, from what I see, yvette is complaining about kylie leaking her social media with private information, and I agree with Donut's point. Social Media is something that whatever you post, it is out there, and whatever you post on social media should be something you are comfortable sharing with the public. If not, then don't post it, or find a way to send it to your friends by still keeping your personal info safe. I understand if this is something that you would want your friends to see, or close people, but if you are afraid of this being leaked, you shouldn't have sent it to livid.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: RagsDeeboo on 19 May 2017, 07:22:41 PM
This happend OUTSIDE of VC, and I don't see how and why can staff be in control of things outside of the server. And plus, why was kylie banned? For harassing? I know as well as ANYONE else the boundaries of joking and being straight up mean, but it seems like the bottom-line has been raised WAY up for kylie. What I am saying is that something that other players do, and get away with, can get kylie banned. I will not list any names, but this happened to me once. I suggest making the harassing rules more clear, and if there is already a clarification, show me.

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

I am not accusing anything.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
Agreed Swaggo
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: RagsDeeboo on 19 May 2017, 07:23:02 PM
Besides, from what I see, yvette is complaining about kylie leaking her social media with private information, and I agree with Donut's point. Social Media is something that whatever you post, it is out there, and whatever you post on social media should be something you are comfortable sharing with the public. If not, then don't post it, or find a way to send it to your friends by still keeping your personal info safe. I understand if this is something that you would want your friends to see, or close people, but if you are afraid of this being leaked, you shouldn't have sent it to livid.
Also agreed
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: PengBunny on 19 May 2017, 07:33:59 PM
i was on die's side, but this is honestly too much

ban is good call air love you  :-[ :-* :-*
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Shensley on 19 May 2017, 07:37:25 PM
I also Agree with Airs call, What Die did just shows that she has not "Changed" Since when we last banned her. I don't see her getting unbanned anytime soon. and to quote Air "Nobody likes a bully"
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 08:56:30 PM
I also Agree with Airs call, What Die did just shows that she has not "Changed" Since when we last banned her. I don't see her getting unbanned anytime soon. and to quote Air "Nobody likes a bully"

Ok, let's see here. First of all, if things happen off of VC they should not be brought on to VC. I would like to see how I "harassed" yvette when the weed and basement thing (on VC at least) was in response to Donut who was acting all cocky?

I would like full logs to prove that I "harassed" Yvette when I was ignoring her the whole time on IRC until she talked to me about the situation... Here, just in case if you don't believe me, where am I harassing yvette?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwIHQTs8LOZuOTRmeFU5Qlp2REE



Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 08:59:15 PM
By logging onto the server, you are consenting to abide by these conditions.  Compliance will be determined by VC staff and will not be the subject of any negotiations.   VC reserves the right to modify these conditions at any time during the probation period, however you will be given the opportunity to agree to any new terms.

So where's the harassment on VC?
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: OctoGamer on 19 May 2017, 09:04:23 PM
My reason for wanting to ban you was for the Monday incident, not as much the last night incident. I do recall you saying the basement and weed thing a few times last night. correct me if i'm wrong. but in my opinion that is pushing the boundaries a bit. anyone disagree? Most people, me included, are disappointed that you have proved you have not changed, Die. you are obviously still harassing people (whether on or off VC) and you said you were done with that bullshit on your last appeal. All you had to do is avoid conflict :/ obviously that didn't happen. I'd love to see you "change" Die, I really would. I don't think the 2 months you took off earlier were enough time.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 19 May 2017, 09:10:55 PM
My reason for wanting to ban you was for the Monday incident, not as much the last night incident. I do recall you saying the basement and weed thing a few times last night. correct me if i'm wrong. but in my opinion that is pushing the boundaries a bit. anyone disagree? Most people, me included, are disappointed that you have proved you have not changed, Die. you are obviously still harassing people (whether on or off VC) and you said you were done with that bullshit on your last appeal.
Octo nothing is going on on VC. It's not like Yvette is that good because she knows that I get infuriated at her so my instincts are to say something back. We all do it in real life.

The Monday incident was already dealt with and I stayed off VC for it. Shen warned me about it and I decided it was best to get off VC because it would cause more trouble. I'm not even trying to be mean or anything but people are deliberately poking me and bringing my family and personal life. So who's causing more harm? I can pull up a screenie of the convo where I said I had no problem with Yvette being trans but it's sick that she's manipulating the family situation. Again, about the Monday night incident I was warned very clearly and then I was told explicitly that VC THING ARE TO STAY OFF OF VC

Also, I said the basement and weed thing once and that was to Donut, not to Yvette :)

Pretty sure if someone brought in your family into an argument that you would be all defensive, just saying.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Akomine on 20 May 2017, 12:48:33 AM
This happend OUTSIDE of VC, and I don't see how and why can staff be in control of things outside of the server. And plus, why was kylie banned? For harassing? I know as well as ANYONE else the boundaries of joking and being straight up mean, but it seems like the bottom-line has been raised WAY up for kylie. What I am saying is that something that other players do, and get away with, can get kylie banned. I will not list any names, but this happened to me once. I suggest making the harassing rules more clear, and if there is already a clarification, show me.

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

Do you think we look for excuses to ban people? Do you think we are corrupt, operate unethically, or play favourites? You said this like we commonly ban people unfairly or something. Please explain.

Furthermore, this partially happened outside VC, partially on VC. What does it matter? It is clearly directly related, dipping in and out of server chat. Like Air said, we can consider things that happen outside of server chat. It's my opinion that Kylie's on-server chat across a few incidents lately is enough to have breached her probation contract, regardless of the Skype crap. I don't know why she has to act like such an antagonist/instigator/bully at times. Sometimes she tries to skirt the borderlines of the rules, or lately her contract. She told us she was changing her ways to be a positive person, but this report proves she is full of negativity, trying to spread mean-spirited shit and get other people in on it. Reminds me of a bully who wants their mean thoughts reinforced by others to feel good about being mean. It's so unfortunate.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: BasicWeasel on 20 May 2017, 12:54:34 AM
My reason for wanting to ban you was for the Monday incident, not as much the last night incident. I do recall you saying the basement and weed thing a few times last night. correct me if i'm wrong. but in my opinion that is pushing the boundaries a bit. anyone disagree? Most people, me included, are disappointed that you have proved you have not changed, Die. you are obviously still harassing people (whether on or off VC) and you said you were done with that bullshit on your last appeal.
Octo nothing is going on on VC. It's not like Yvette is that good because she knows that I get infuriated at her so my instincts are to say something back. We all do it in real life.

The Monday incident was already dealt with and I stayed off VC for it. Shen warned me about it and I decided it was best to get off VC because it would cause more trouble. I'm not even trying to be mean or anything but people are deliberately poking me and bringing my family and personal life. So who's causing more harm? I can pull up a screenie of the convo where I said I had no problem with Yvette being trans but it's sick that she's manipulating the family situation. Again, about the Monday night incident I was warned very clearly and then I was told explicitly that VC THING ARE TO STAY OFF OF VC

Also, I said the basement and weed thing once and that was to Donut, not to Yvette :)

Pretty sure if someone brought in your family into an argument that you would be all defensive, just saying.

I'm not here to start anything, if it does I wont reply. If you know that you get infuriated at her, wouldn't it be best to ignore her and not speak to her? As well as most adults or "mature" people in life actually don't go saying things back. They just walk away, I think it would've of been a smarter move in this case to just walk away. As for the family thing, I do see a point as to why you might argue over it. Remember though it doesn't have to result in a conflict unless you allow it to. I do think you can be mature but, I think people tend to get caught up in your beef with others which in returns carries it onto vc (not blaming you for it, I just feel others aren't mature enough to leave it alone sometimes) Look at it this way, gives you more free time to worry about other things. Best of luck and maybe one day you'll be allowed to joined back o/
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 20 May 2017, 06:08:19 AM

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

I am not accusing anything.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
Oh fuck off, like we get off to banning people or get anything out of it. We gave Die so many chances and her contract was pretty fucking strict. If you think we look for excuses to ban people, then you don't know shit about VC.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: OctoGamer on 20 May 2017, 06:52:09 AM

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

I am not accusing anything.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
Oh fuck off, like we get off to banning people or get anything out of it. We gave Die so many chances and her contract was pretty fucking strict. If you think we look for excuses to ban people, then you don't know shit about VC.
preach bro, pretty much sums up my thoughts.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: JANUARYJONES on 20 May 2017, 02:47:42 PM
Haha. If Die was that dipshit 13 Reasons Why she'd be the worst of the bunch because she's more than a bully she's a goddamn psychopath you're friends with for some fuck all reason. ;D

Seriously, how can you defend someone who will go as far as bullying someone about their mother passing away?
You're either idiots or you're just like her.
We have years of "excuses" to ban her. She gets off to hurting others and our players shouldn't have to tolerate this behavior we all thought was a phase that turned out to be a barren wasteland of a personality.

What a disappointment you lot have been.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 20 May 2017, 04:07:42 PM
This happend OUTSIDE of VC, and I don't see how and why can staff be in control of things outside of the server. And plus, why was kylie banned?

Since this happens mostly on skype, I see no reason to ban Kylie, but another excuse for staff to ban someone.

I am not accusing anything.

FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
To add to my reply to you:
Die was banned because she is a shitty toxic being. How bout that bud?
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: RagsDeeboo on 20 May 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Ok, I'm gonna get one thing straight. I understand that Kylie/Die broke #2 of her contract on Monday. However, you guys do NOT need to be douches about it. Thats VC's #1 rule. Don't be a douche, and can be punished. Yvette, there is absolutely no need to be like "surprise, she didn't change!" She may not of have, and I think we all realize that. She may have been poking at you, but that doesn't give you permission to do it back. And Jan, that was very, very, VERY unnecessary. We are friends with her because she is funny, usually happy, kind to people (she likes at least). Calling people psychopath is a very douchebaggy thing to do. I do understand she may not have been the nicest person in the universe to some people, but that doesn't give you any reason to call her an idiot and psychopath. She is a real person, with real feelings. If someone called you that, would you be upset? I'm just gonna leave that there. Rags-OUT.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: RagsDeeboo on 20 May 2017, 06:46:53 PM
Ok, I'm gonna get one thing straight. I understand that Kylie/Die broke #2 of her contract on Monday. However, you guys do NOT need to be douches about it. Thats VC's #1 rule. Don't be a douche, and can be punished. Yvette, there is absolutely no need to be like "surprise, she didn't change!" She may not of have, and I think we all realize that. She may have been poking at you, but that doesn't give you permission to do it back. And Jan, that was very, very, VERY unnecessary. We are friends with her because she is funny, usually happy, kind to people (she likes at least). Calling people psychopath is a very douchebaggy thing to do. I do understand she may not have been the nicest person in the universe to some people, but that doesn't give you any reason to call her an idiot and psychopath. She is a real person, with real feelings. If someone called you that, would you be upset? I'm just gonna leave that there. Rags-OUT.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Yvette on 20 May 2017, 06:53:32 PM
Ok, I'm gonna get one thing straight. I understand that Kylie/Die broke #2 of her contract on Monday. However, you guys do NOT need to be douches about it. Thats VC's #1 rule. Don't be a douche, and can be punished. Yvette, there is absolutely no need to be like "surprise, she didn't change!" She may not of have, and I think we all realize that. She may have been poking at you, but that doesn't give you permission to do it back. And Jan, that was very, very, VERY unnecessary. We are friends with her because she is funny, usually happy, kind to people (she likes at least). Calling people psychopath is a very douchebaggy thing to do. I do understand she may not have been the nicest person in the universe to some people, but that doesn't give you any reason to call her an idiot and psychopath. She is a real person, with real feelings. If someone called you that, would you be upset? I'm just gonna leave that there. Rags-OUT.
Kylie is the most toxic person ever to have graced VC with their presence. She teased a girl about her mother dying, has relentlessly harassed me since I returned to VC, threatened to grief Gere, has literally bullied someone on the server to the point where they were feeling suicidal (not disclosing who, they would prefer to remain anonymous), and is a general asshole to everyone that doesn't bend to her every whim.
Somehow, you can defend that. And somehow, you can find a way to turn it around on everyone else that she's made miserable, and make it there fault, all while saying "well maybe she isnt the nicest person, but.." like fucking really? Kylie is a "real person with real feelings" but all the other people she harasses and treats like shit - they aren't real people with real feelings? Nice.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: PengBunny on 20 May 2017, 06:56:39 PM
Ok, I'm gonna get one thing straight. I understand that Kylie/Die broke #2 of her contract on Monday. However, you guys do NOT need to be douches about it. Thats VC's #1 rule. Don't be a douche, and can be punished. Yvette, there is absolutely no need to be like "surprise, she didn't change!" She may not of have, and I think we all realize that. She may have been poking at you, but that doesn't give you permission to do it back. And Jan, that was very, very, VERY unnecessary. We are friends with her because she is funny, usually happy, kind to people (she likes at least). Calling people psychopath is a very douchebaggy thing to do. I do understand she may not have been the nicest person in the universe to some people, but that doesn't give you any reason to call her an idiot and psychopath. She is a real person, with real feelings. If someone called you that, would you be upset? I'm just gonna leave that there. Rags-OUT.
Kylie is the most toxic person ever to have graced VC with their presence. She teased a girl about her mother dying, has relentlessly harassed me since I returned to VC, threatened to grief Gere, has literally bullied someone on the server to the point where they were feeling suicidal (not disclosing who, they would prefer to remain anonymous), and is a general asshole to everyone that doesn't bend to her every whim.
Somehow, you can defend that. And somehow, you can find a way to turn it around on everyone else that she's made miserable, and make it there fault, all while saying "well maybe she isnt the nicest person, but.." like fucking really? Kylie is a "real person with real feelings" but all the other people she harasses and treats like shit - they aren't real people with real feelings? Nice.

to be fair, what is being said is pretty harmful even if die is being a douchedick
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: PsyKottok on 20 May 2017, 07:07:49 PM
I'm going to chime in here. As a new player, just meeting a lot of you for the first time, I hope you can understand that my point of view is not taken from any favoritism, or biased towards any players.  I witnessed the bleed-over from the skype call into VC. I felt sick to my stomach witnessing how Kylie/die was treating Yvette. What I saw, was Kylie defending her actions by victim-blaming Yvette. "If you don't want me to do this shitty thing to you, you shouldn't have put yourself in a position in which I could".   This type of behavior is not acceptable IMHO.

That is all.
~Psy
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 20 May 2017, 07:18:40 PM
I seriously like how no one read the last line of my previous response, or any of it at all except for the part where i said that staff may be just looking for excuses to ban people.

I also like how i said to correct me if I am wrong, but yall chose to do it in the meanest way possible.

Can someone answer my question? Why was kylie banned for something that happened outside of VC?

(air answered my question, but as far as I know, being a shitty toxic being is out of staff controls if it is outside of skype)

I also like how the past comments about how staff cant ban players for fucking up outside of VC has been completely ignored
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: _ForeverSwag878_ on 20 May 2017, 07:22:13 PM
Ignore my last post

I like how I am just simply clarifying and now 1/3 of all staff members decide to lecture me about this. Plus if you even DO plan on yelling me at this, i think we only need one person to do so, not like 4 people saying the SAME EXACT THING

i get the point

i wont say anything anymore since everything that I say seems to be viewed as WRONG

goddamn
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: AtomicDonut on 20 May 2017, 07:44:45 PM
I agree with swag and rags. You guys need to learn how to be less douchebaggy. And you basically can't voice your own opinion just like swag said because if you say something not only the staff are rude there's also like 2+ staff screaming at you for it...
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 20 May 2017, 07:57:51 PM
I seriously like how no one read the last line of my previous response, or any of it at all except for the part where i said that staff may be just looking for excuses to ban people.

I also like how i said to correct me if I am wrong, but yall chose to do it in the meanest way possible.

Can someone answer my question? Why was kylie banned for something that happened outside of VC?

(air answered my question, but as far as I know, being a shitty toxic being is out of staff controls if it is outside of skype)

I also like how the past comments about how staff cant ban players for fucking up outside of VC has been completely ignored
I don't care where it happened, it involved VC members and die was on her last chance.

This is what she said in her appeal:
Quote
No no, I assure you that I am done with all of this. All I want to do is come back to see fellow players that I have known for a long time. I'm not going to revert back into some old behaviour pattern. The period of time wasn't really that short (can be debated) but I have talked to many people that were impacted negatively me. For that I want to repair the damage done to the server, but I'm afraid that it can't be done.

I promise on VC's sake that I've stopped this nonsense behaviour. Anyone is free to test me on this. I will stay true to everything I plan to do to keep myself a better person.

She lied, she is still an asshole and now she is banned. I don't care where it happened, she violated her contract. We can ban people for shitty toxic behaviour outside of VC, especially if it involves harassing a VC member. I really don't understand how you don't get this. I think you do get it but you're mad because your friend got banned. We gave her plenty of chances and she kept disappointing us, if this was another server, she would have been banned years ago... how dare you argue that because it happened outside of VC, in skype, we can't ban her for it? We can and we did. I even wanted to do an IP ban to prevent alt accounts but Octo told me her brother plays on VC, so I didn't IP ban. Though if we catch her using an alt, we will ban the alt and then ban her IP.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Akomine on 20 May 2017, 08:10:15 PM
I agree with swag and rags. You guys need to learn how to be less douchebaggy. And you basically can't voice your own opinion just like swag said because if you say something not only the staff are rude there's also like 2+ staff screaming at you for it...

As always, you can voice your opinion, you can speak freely. It doesn't mean we'll all agree with you, but we won't silence you. Go ahead and speak.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Die_Endermen on 20 May 2017, 08:22:15 PM
Feel free to lock this since VC doesn't bother me nor it would not interest me to play on a Minecraft server.

I have real issues and I'm not going to sit here wasting my time presenting a point to play a kids game when I have better things to do like go to school.

Also, Gobby rarely comes on and it's easy to tell it's not me.
Title: Re: Long Report against Kylie. Shocker, she didnt change!
Post by: Airbongo on 20 May 2017, 08:29:00 PM
Ok topic locked.