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-Clarified VillageCraft Rules-
« on: 26 May 2013, 04:06:53 PM »
Note: The End has alternate rules. They can be found here: http://www.villagecraft-server.com/forum/index.php?topic=824.0

There are rules on the server that are not currently clear. This topic is here to clarify those rules.

Please, reply to this thread by asking us to clarify a rule, suggest a new rule, suggest removal of a rule, or suggest a rule be changed.
 
When you post, when reasonable to do so we will edit it by adding a line under what you typed saying:

Added

Added means it becomes part of the list of clarified rules in the original post.

Go ahead and ask about rules or discuss them or try to add to the list! The list will start small and continue to add up. The more we get the more the server will be cleaned up of these uncertain rules!


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Clarified Rules:

1. Teleport Killing (TP Killing, TP Attacking, TP Combat)
Definition: Using teleporting for the purposes of PVP combat. Includes killing, attempted killing, attacking, trapping, or any hostile act involving teleporting.

Rule: Allowed, except when:
-An agreement is made in chat to be peaceful. If someone contravenes this they can be punished beyond a warning on 1st offence. You cannot avoid this rule by agreeing to be peaceful and then getting another player to kill the victim instead. Furthermore, if you are in a no-kill agreement and want to teleport someone else to you, you must first have them agree to be peaceful as well.
-A new player on the server is unfairly baited into a TP kill, in which case Staff can get the items back - There generally needs to only be a warning to the culprit. Please don't take advantage of new players.


2. Trade Scamming (Tricking players, Theft)
Definition: Trading with players and not committing to your side of the deal. Also known as trade theft or just being a douche. (Includes all types of trades).

Rule: Not Allowed
-This is considered stealing and scamming, and definitely not allowed under any circumstances.


3. Grief (Vandalism, Destroying claimed blocks/items)
Definition: The destruction, theft, and/or placement of blocks (including lava or water) that vandalizes and ruins any creation made by a player. Includes any player creation that was built by a current player who has logged on in the last 2 months, was built in the last 2 months, or any creation that is still in use or was clearly in use in the last 2 months. Does not include "Salvaging" (see #4).

Rule: Not Allowed
Grief is a basic rule and has always been against the rules. Rule of thumb: if destroying it is going to cause someone grief, don't destroy it. To help figure out how old something is, use "/lb toolblock" to check LogBlock logs and see how long ago blocks were placed. Also use "/seen" to check server files and see how long ago the player(s) who built the blocks were online. If in doubt, ask Staff.
Village owners who clearly have a rule stating they can alter or remove constructions that do not conform to a village rule can remove/alter the structure without it being considered grief. If the person who lived there built it with their own materials, those materials should be returned to them, unless it was grief in the first place.
Salvaging is not grief, and is covered below.


4. Salvaging (Destroying/altering abandoned structures)
Definition: Destroying/altering abandoned creations that are at least 2 months old and are not currently in use.

Rule: Allowed
If LogBlock and "/seen", as well as your own intuition all show that the structure/creation is clearly at least 2 months old and has clearly been abandoned for at least 2 months, you may destroy it and keep the items, or even claim it and take it over. Salvaging is not grief.
To help figure out how old something is, use "/lb toolblock" to check LogBlock logs and see how long ago blocks were placed. Also use "/seen" to check server files and see how long ago the player(s) who build the blocks were online. If in doubt, ask Staff.
You may also salvage random blocks sitting in the Outlands without waiting for 2 months to pass. This includes dirt/cobble towers, crude bridges/steps used in adventuring, and other very minor constructions that nobody would ever complain about if removed.


5. AFK Bypassing (Away-From-Keyboard Bypassing, Anti-Idle Machines, Idle Machines, AFK Pools)
Definition: Any method used to intentionally avoid VillageCraft's 30-minute AFK time limit for idling players. This is often done with any mechanism that keep's the idle player moving around (such as water flowing in a circuit), thus tricking the server into thinking they are actively playing.

Rule: Not Allowed
This practice is considered "cheaty" because it can be used to hoard entities at a mob farm/spawner (and minecraft has a mob limit), and can add lag to the server which harms active players. Please don't bypass the AFK limit out of respect to others on the server. Leniency will be given to those who only use it to watch chat, or something else non-cheaty. [Note: Rule added by 5-2 Staff Vote]


6. Iron Golem Farms (Iron Farms, Iron Golem Spawners, Iron Spawners)
Definition: A machine that produces iron by using villagers to exploit spawn mechanics to create iron golems.

Rule: Not Allowed
Because iron is such a valuable item in the game, we unfortunately have to restrict these farms in order to preserve the VC economy. [Note: Rule added by 8-2 Staff Vote]
Exemptions: The owners of existing farms can negotiate a compromise to keep the farm - Please contact Akomine.
Current Exemption Agreements: OctoGamer & lishman77's farm.

REPEALED by a staff vote of 11-2.


7. Profanity, Free Speech & Expression (Swearing, Cussing, 'bad' words/images)
Definition: Anything that is not harassment that can be considered objectionable or offensive or controversial.

Rule: Allowed
Profanity is always allowed under VillageCraft's long-standing policy of Free Speech & Expression. This means objectionable, controversial, and/or distasteful things can be said and created in-game. Free speech does not include harassment. VillageCraft refuses to enforce any censorship on free speech & expression. We understand that free speech can offend some people; you have the right to be offended, but you do not have the right to censor someone else based on your personal preferences.
« Last Edit: 21 February 2015, 05:43:05 PM by Akomine »
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Re: Obscure Rules!?
« Reply #1 on: 26 May 2013, 04:31:29 PM »
TP killing sortof needs to be allowed, and is usually allowed.

That's why I made the exception for people who make an agreement in chat, to provide a means of teleporting safely for those who want to do so.
I don't at all mind Star getting new players' items back from being TP killed, and I think I even encourage it.

So...
TP Killing is allowed unless:
-An agreement is made in chat to be peaceful, and if someone contravenes it can be punished beyond a warning on 1st offence.
-A new player on the server is unfairly baited into a TP kill, in which case Staff can get the items back - There generally needs to only be a warning to the culprit.


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TP Killing updated.
« Last Edit: 26 May 2013, 11:32:38 PM by Akomine »

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #2 on: 26 May 2013, 06:29:02 PM »
How about a rule for no scamming?
After several instances with certain players, I think we may need to clarify that scamming is not OK.

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Scamming / Stealing updated.
« Last Edit: 26 May 2013, 06:45:50 PM by Bl4ck_St0ne »
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #3 on: 26 May 2013, 10:39:45 PM »
After several instances with certain players, I think we may need to clarify that scamming is not OK.

One would think that's common sense... Then again, we're surrounded by fucking 12 year olds with no brains.

Rule to be clarified: Breaking blocks in the Outlands, when it's okay and when it isn't. Mention /lb toolblock.

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Grief clarified.
Salvaging clarified.
« Last Edit: 26 May 2013, 11:32:17 PM by Akomine »


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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #4 on: 26 May 2013, 11:47:54 PM »
After several instances with certain players, I think we may need to clarify that scamming is not OK.

One would think that's common sense... Then again, we're surrounded by fucking 12 year olds with no brains.

Rule to be clarified: Breaking blocks in the Outlands, when it's okay and when it isn't. Mention /lb toolblock.

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Grief clarified.
Salvaging clarified.
i take offense to that D; also maybe clarify chests and inactivity, and looting unlocked chests and whatnot
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #5 on: 27 May 2013, 01:11:15 AM »
What about when a deal is made, there is attempted murder such as suffocation, wolves attacking if in Outlands, other players barging in, etc. I'm confused. Would this be not allowed?

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #6 on: 27 May 2013, 06:03:44 AM »
If two people have made a deal not to kill each other, and someone comes along and killed them, that's just tough luck.
The third person never agreed to the no kill thing.


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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #7 on: 27 May 2013, 02:08:59 PM »
If two people have made a deal not to kill each other, and someone comes along and killed them, that's just tough luck.
The third person never agreed to the no kill thing.

Agreed, unless one of the people who agreed on a no-kill had a buddy waiting to pounce. Pre-meditated trapping like that to avoid the rule ain't allowed.
If it is just a random person, then allowed I guess yeah.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #8 on: 27 May 2013, 02:25:30 PM »
Clarify: When to ask staff to break locks.
Include rules about chests inside a village (as in, only village owners can claim 2 month old chests if it's in their village)

Clarify: Unlocked chests in the Outlands, regardless of whether they are active

Clarify: Use of profanity. When it's okay and when it isn't.

Define: Harassment and what players can do about it.

Define: Staff abuse and what players can do about it.
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #9 on: 27 May 2013, 03:24:59 PM »
Clarify: When to ask staff to break locks.
Include rules about chests inside a village (as in, only village owners can claim 2 month old chests if it's in their village)

Clarify: Unlocked chests in the Outlands, regardless of whether they are active

Clarify: Use of profanity. When it's okay and when it isn't.

Define: Harassment and what players can do about it.

Define: Staff abuse and what players can do about it.


You guys are making it confusing for me to add things lol. Ako are you adding stuff or did I do those too? And star I can't tell what you want us to add lol.
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #10 on: 27 May 2013, 03:51:48 PM »
Clarify: When to ask staff to break locks.
Include rules about chests inside a village (as in, only village owners can claim 2 month old chests if it's in their village)

Clarify: Unlocked chests in the Outlands, regardless of whether they are active

Clarify: Use of profanity. When it's okay and when it isn't.

Define: Harassment and what players can do about it.

Define: Staff abuse and what players can do about it.

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Clarify: Unlocked chests in the Outlands, regardless of whether they are active
Unlocked chests are fair game anywhere, players have access to Lockette for a reason. Different rules obviously apply to the public chests in Qualia

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Clarify: Use of profanity. When it's okay and when it isn't.

Profanity is always allowed. Even racial slurs are allowed all the time (unless they are being used to offend another player). We don't censor words. Personally attacking/insulting other players is a whole different story.


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Define: Harassment and what players can do about it

Well, this is a complicated matter. Harassing could be anything from a few random insults to bullying. There's a difference between stupid insults like "Fuck you, you suck" and crazy shit like "I hope your parents fucking die of cancer you asshole cuntfuck". Moderators should moderate this at their own discretion and use common sense. If there are no moderators online, players can report someone on the "Reports and Grievances" board.


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Define: Staff abuse and what players can do about it.
Staff abuse= A member of staff abusing his/her power to harm/annoy other players or to gain unfair advantages. Examples:
- A staff member is abusing moderator commands like /kill to kill random players without reason
- A staff member abuses the /tp command to tp to another player and kill him/her
- A staff member uses /whois to find out the coordinates of a player and tracks him down and kills him/her.

If a player suspects power abuse, he/she should report it and it will be investigated. We have logs for ALL commands used (including the EXACT coordinates where they were used) and every word said in chat.
« Last Edit: 27 May 2013, 03:56:42 PM by airborne101st45 »



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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #11 on: 27 May 2013, 09:32:41 PM »
You guys are making it confusing for me to add things lol. Ako are you adding stuff or did I do those too? And star I can't tell what you want us to add lol.

Um? I'm not seeing the confusion here. When I mention something, that kind of means I want it added. I'm giving you pointers on what to add.

Basically, just copy and paste Air's answers to my points and put it in your format. ie:

5. Accessing unlocked chests
[info]

6. Profanity
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7. Harassment
["VC definition" & info]

8. Staff abuse
["VC definition" & info on what to do]


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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #12 on: 27 June 2013, 02:01:40 AM »
Clarify: Allowed and disallowed types of modifications

From what I've been told, X-Ray and Radar are not allowed. However, what about things like HUD enhancements (Zan's minimap, Autoswitch, ArmorStatusHUD, StatusEffectHUD, etc.)

Very specifically, I'm wondering about mods like Convenient Inventory.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #13 on: 6 August 2013, 01:49:51 AM »
Added AFK Bypassing
Added Iron Golem Farms
Added Profanity, Free Speech & Expression
« Last Edit: 6 August 2013, 03:08:51 AM by Akomine »

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #14 on: 18 August 2013, 05:07:58 PM »
Rule 1 has been updated as of the 18th of August 2013 at 5:07 Eastern Standard Time.

It used to read:
1. Teleport Killing (TP Killing, TP Attacking, TP Combat)
Definition: Using teleporting for the purposes of PVP combat. Includes killing, attempted killing, attacking, trapping, or any hostile act involving teleporting.

Rule: Allowed, except when:
-An agreement is made in chat to be peaceful. If someone contravenes this they can be punished beyond a warning on 1st offence. You cannot avoid this rule by agreeing to be peaceful and then getting another player to kill the victim instead.
-A new player on the server is unfairly baited into a TP kill, in which case Staff can get the items back - There generally needs to only be a warning to the culprit. Please don't take advantage of new players.

It now reads:
1. Teleport Killing (TP Killing, TP Attacking, TP Combat)
Definition: Using teleporting for the purposes of PVP combat. Includes killing, attempted killing, attacking, trapping, or any hostile act involving teleporting.

Rule: Allowed, except when:
-An agreement is made in chat to be peaceful. If someone contravenes this they can be punished beyond a warning on 1st offence. You cannot avoid this rule by agreeing to be peaceful and then getting another player to kill the victim instead. Furthermore, if you are in a no-kill agreement and want to teleport someone else to you, you must first have them agree to be peaceful as well.
-A new player on the server is unfairly baited into a TP kill, in which case Staff can get the items back - There generally needs to only be a warning to the culprit. Please don't take advantage of new players.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #15 on: 22 August 2013, 11:18:35 PM »
What about someone attacking you then jumping into a no pvp area? Is is allowed?


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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #16 on: 23 August 2013, 03:49:03 AM »
What about someone attacking you then jumping into a no pvp area? Is is allowed?

No

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #17 on: 3 September 2013, 08:20:45 PM »
What about someone attacking you then jumping into a no pvp area? Is is allowed?

In the arena? No.

Outlands, if there is no contract? There are no rules regulating that situation.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #18 on: 11 September 2013, 01:16:53 AM »
How about clarifying if village rules have to be followed my people squatting in a village and not technically a part of it? i.e. teleporting dozens of people to a private area even though its against the rules of that village.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #19 on: 11 September 2013, 05:02:59 AM »
How about clarifying if village rules have to be followed my people squatting in a village and not technically a part of it? i.e. teleporting dozens of people to a private area even though its against the rules of that village.
I'm pretty sure staff don't enforce village rules; also some random in your village didn't agree to the rules.
Maybe a clarification that you can't stay in someone's land if they ask you to leave.
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #20 on: 11 September 2013, 08:21:45 AM »
How about clarifying if village rules have to be followed my people squatting in a village and not technically a part of it? i.e. teleporting dozens of people to a private area even though its against the rules of that village.
I'm pretty sure staff don't enforce village rules; also some random in your village didn't agree to the rules.
Maybe a clarification that you can't stay in someone's land if they ask you to leave.

We don't enforce village rules, but we do respect them.

What we do enforce:
For example, if a village says "griefing in a village is OK" in the village rules, and those rules are posted in a conspicuous location, and people know about the rule, then we won't pursue a grief report in a village that allows griefing.

What we don't enforce:
Situations where staff must go out of their way to enforce village rules. These situations include forcing members to pay rent, fines for breaking blocks, etc. We won't make the people pay the fine, but you can always remove them as a member if they don't respect your rules.

@Josh, If they're being douchey and interfering in your building, then we can handle that. If they're just running around your island, then you'll have to deal with it. If you have a specific complaint, I recommend opening a thread in the Reports/Grievances section of the forum.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #21 on: 11 September 2013, 11:15:21 AM »
is using certain potions in the arena allowed?

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #22 on: 11 September 2013, 09:20:21 PM »
is using certain potions in the arena allowed?
unless you agree to a no potions pvp match then any potions are allowed
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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #23 on: 12 September 2013, 01:06:09 AM »
I have three other villages besides shroom island. Thanks for clearing it up a bit.

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #24 on: 25 September 2013, 07:24:30 PM »
Hey I was wondering if you guys could clarify rule number 3/4. For example lets say I found a chest that was abandoned for 1 year in a village would it still be considered salvaging, if a admin broke the chest and gave me the stuff? Or would it be up to the owner of the village to ask an admin or sm to break the chest and"salvage" it, or just leave it be. Or would salvaging not apply in villages?

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Re: -Clarify VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #25 on: 25 September 2013, 07:44:59 PM »
Hey I was wondering if you guys could clarify rule number 3/4. For example lets say I found a chest that was abandoned for 1 year in a village would it still be considered salvaging, if a admin broke the chest and gave me the stuff? Or would it be up to the owner of the village to ask an admin or sm to break the chest and"salvage" it, or just leave it be. Or would salvaging not apply in villages?

If there are active owners of the village, it is up to them. If no owners are active, then members get first dibs. If you are not a member of a village, but the village is still active, you ain't getting that chest :P

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Re: -Clarified VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #26 on: 21 February 2015, 05:43:41 PM »
Rule 6 repealed by a staff vote of 11-2. Iron farms are now fully allowed, along with all other farms.

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Re: -Clarified VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #27 on: 11 June 2015, 03:51:14 PM »
I put some stuff in a chest. Did not put a sign on the chests but i put one near them saying not free. I had never gone inactive. Another player stole all the valuable stuff. Does this mean the stuff was greifed? There is no rule saying it is not.
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Re: -Clarified VillageCraft Rules-
« Reply #28 on: 11 June 2015, 05:29:39 PM »
I put some stuff in a chest. Did not put a sign on the chests but i put one near them saying not free. I had never gone inactive. Another player stole all the valuable stuff. Does this mean the stuff was greifed? There is no rule saying it is not.
I've already told you, if a chest is unlocked people can take from it. We have lockette for a reason. I think the only way people could not take from it is if it was behind locked doors and they had to break in.